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Khalid Mahmood
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi All..
For SOA Applications whether FP or COSMIC FP is used for effort estimation?
 

Steven Woodward
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Khalid,
The SOA Interest Group within the IFPUG New Environments Committee community has it's next meeting June 30. If you are an IFPUG member there is no cost to join this community. They already have had tremendous presentations and discussions around applying the IFPUG method for SOA and actual results and value realized. They are starting to get some helpful templates and documents put together as well. To join, just send an email to soa@ifpug.org. This community is only available to IFPUG members.

Thanks
Steven Woodward - Chair NEC
 

Khalid Mahmood
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Dear Steve
Sorry But my question is still unanswered, that which technique is best one. bcz i am confused.
 

Steven Woodward
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 04:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Khalid,
Companies are using the IFPUG method, with some interpreations and middleware IFPUG guidelines to estimate SOA service functionality effort. The "best question for you" is dependant upon many factors such as; do you have benchmarks and known productivity rates for COSMIC and/ or IFPUG Methods? Do you already use the IFPUG method for middleware estimates? etc. Having an SOA community (I think over 30 participants) within IFPUG, adds tremendous value to ensure interpretations and extensions are intuitive and valuable for the SOA related industry. Not a simple "which is best?". Similar question to, which is best "gallons" or "litres?". I'm not going there!

Thanks
Steven Woodward - IFPUG NEC Chair
 

Khalid Mahmood
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 05:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Dear Steven
I am a MS student, and my research topic is empirical analysis of Function Points in SOA Applications. My target is to include Integrating efforts for SOA services. can you help me in this regard.

Khalid
 

Steven Woodward
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 09:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Khalid,
You can become a student member for $50 and participate in the SOA and other NEC Interest Group communities.

We have had some discussions around SOA services and productivity experiences. I attended the TM (Telecommunication Management)Forum to discuss with leaders in cloud computing service delivery. They had the same comments as those in the IFPUG SOA communuity regarding the additional expenses incurred developing cloud services. Two to three times the cost of traditional business functions.

Thanks
Steve
 

N.Venkateswaran
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Steve,

that two or three times cost happens only for implementing SOA on an existing applications.If it is planned well ahead for going with SOA from the beginning, Companies can see tremendous benefits and ROI.

Cheers
 

Gianfranco Lanza
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 04:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sizing is not an easy task and perhaps it doesn't exist one method better than another. In my opinion it's a matter of culture: we have to use the measure that can give us the best answer to our question in according to our goal.
In the case of SOA we have to determine what we have to measure, the depth of our measure and first of all our goal. If the goal is the effort estimate for example, the important thing would be to choose one method and to collect historical data with that method, in a coherent way. If it can be useful I attach a presentation that I did at SMEF 2009 in Rome.
Best Regards
application/pdfIFPUG Function Point or COSMIC Function Point?
SMEF2009 presentation (Gianfranco Lanza).pdf (641.5 k)

CSI-Piemonte - Direzione Sviluppo Progetti
www.csipiemonte.it
e-mail: gianfranco.lanza@csi.it
 

Khalid Mahmood
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 02:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi
I need some SOA projects for effort estimation using Function Points. Is there any online resource for it, where completed SOA projects are available.

Best Regards
Khalid
 

Venkata Satish Kumar Abbaraju
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 03:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I feel COSMIC should be used for SOA..Google it.. good material is available online for SOA estimation
 

N.Venkateswaran
Username: Nvenk

Post Number: 284
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 04:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi Venkata,

no comments from me on Cosmic but IFPUG can be best used for estimating SOA and it matches the reality.

Cheers

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